Is ByteDance Naming A CEO Whose Background Is China Tech The Right Decsion For TikTok’s International Growth

Is TikTok going in the right direction naming Shou Zi Chew as CEO over long-term American Exec Vanessa Pappas?

Vanessa Pappas Has Been The Interim Head Of TikTok Since August Of Last Year, Leading TikTok Through The Pandemic And The Trump Administration’s Campaign To Shutdown Or Sell Off The American-Based Chinese Tech Company.

Leading Parent Company ByteDance Named A Singaporean-Native Shou Zi Chew As TikTok’s New CEO. Shou Zi Chew Was ByteDance’s CFO For Two Months Before Taking Over As TikTok’s CEO, While Continuing To Be Based In Singapore – Not The United States.

Will Pappas Remain, Or Will She Follow Her Old Boss Kevin Mayer After Three Months As TikTok’s CEO, Or Christie Fleischer Leaving Netflix As Head of Consumer Products In Just One Year? Both Who Were Former Long-Term Disney Execs.

By Ryan Carroll, Managing Editor.

May, 2021

Editorial.

TikTok is facing two major questions with this recent announcement from ByteDance and its CEO Zhang Yiming: Will a Singaporean whose background is in venture capitol and private equity, before working for Xiaomi Technology, the Chinese mid-range smartphone company, for over 5 years as its CFO be the right choice for an American-Based social media company?

In his last year and a half at Xiaomi, Shou Zi Chew was named; Partner, Director, President of International (according to his LinkedIn profile), which may be a hint to what ByteDance is planning for TikTok.

Shou Zi Chew has an extensive background with Xiaomi, even before the 5+ years he worked there. He was a Partner at DST Investment Management in Hong Kong for 5 years, reportedly holding a key part in its Russian parent company DST Global’s investment into Xiaomi Technology.

Moving directly from DST Investment Management to Xiaomi as its CFO.

DST Global is one of the largest investment firms worldwide and was founded by Russia’s leading tech investor Yuri Milner. DST Global is known to have links to the Kremlin, providing large investment deals for Kremlin-owned, Kremlin-controlled firms, and a state-owned multinational energy company.

DST Global’s investment, on behalf of these Kremlin deals led the U.S. government sanctions DST Global. Most notably in investments into Twitter and Facebook’s IPO.

Is Shou Zi Chew’s placement as CEO a sign that TikTok is moving its focus of growth away from the U.S. / West, to focus on expanding into immerging markets. Where they feel TikTok would have less potential political interference; such as, Greater Asia, SE Asia, Russia, and Africa?

As these markets have had greater penetration by Xiaomi under the time Shou Zi Chew was at the company, and his potential ties to Russian tech investment could also serve useful.

If this is true, then with Shou Zi Chew being based in Singapore and his background exclusively working in China or Greater China, except for a 2 year stint at Goldman Sachs in London after his undergraduate studies at University College London and an MBA from Harvard Business School.

Moving away from the West’s viable concern over TikTok’s security (data) threat? And, will Pappas stay on or should we expect her exit within the year?

Vanessa Pappas spent nearly a year as the Global Interim Head of TikTok, and being arguably the behind-the-scenes guru for TikTok’s explosive growth in the U.S. Joining the team as General Manage in Q4 of 2018, after being a Strategic Advisor to ByteDance two-months prior to that. With TikTok only officially launching, via Musical.ly, in Q3 of that same year.

Pappas had many believing that she would be eventually named as CEO of the company, but with all the fervor of Kevin Mayer being named CEO of TikTok, and COO of ByteDance, his tenure was short lived.

Before TikTok Pappas was the known key strategist for Audience Development, Creator Growth, Loyalty, and Creator Content Creation at YouTube; and for developing the YouTube Creator Handbook while there.

If Pappas is being pushed aside for a man, appearing to be handpicked by ByteDance’s CEO Zhang Yiming, after being ByteDance’s CFO for three months before taking over as TikTok’s CEO. Whose background is working for a Beijing-based China-owned smart device company. A Chinese tech company that was able to move into non-Chinese emerging markets due to its affordability, flash sales, and decent quality for price, the right choice for a content creator driven video app?

If this is the case, then expect Pappas to have moved on to bigger and better things by the end of this year.

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Oracle As TikTok’s “Trusted Partner Still Leaves TikTok As A National Security Threat

TikTok’s “Technology Partnership” With Oracle Does Not Solve The National Security Problem As China Still Controls The AI And Algorithms.

With the News Breaking Sunday the 13th That TikTok Both Rejected Microsoft’s Bid, And Accepted Oracle’s Offer, The World Waited To See Just How This Deal Would Play Out. On Monday It Was Announced It Was Not A Sale But That Oracle Would Be TikTok’s American “Technology Partner”.

A Term Sheet That Does Not Meet, Either The Standards Of The Executive Order, Nor Does It Match The National Security Concerns TikTok Poses.

By Ryan Carroll, Managing Editor.

September, 2020

Technology “Partner” – No Sale!

According to Variety Oracle will become TikTok’s “technology partner / provider” and TikTok will not outright sell its assets to Oracle, but instead Oracle will manage its operations here in a unspecified manner.

As Oracle is one of the leading Silicon Valley cloud providers it would be apt to manage its data servers, though TikTok manages all its worldwide backup user data on servers in Singapore, which it’s parent company ByteDance is investing billions into Singapore, so there is this concern.

As apart of the deal, ByteDance VC investors General Atlantic and Sequoia Capital, will receive ownership stakes in TikTok according to the WSJ. Their involvement, along with Oracle Founder Larry Ellison being a Trump supporter, friend, and fundraiser, may have been part of the equation to how Oracle beat out Microsoft to become TikTok’s American “partners.”

One major hurdle still faces Oracle and TikTok and that is the volatile Trump Administration:

Earlier, Mnuchin said that the Treasury-led Committee on Foreign Investment in the U.S. (CFIUS) will review Oracle’s proposal this week. “We will be reviewing that at the CFIUS committee this week and then will be making a recommendation to the president and reviewing it with [Trump],” Mnuchin said on CNBC. “From our standpoint, we’ll need to make sure that the code is, one, secure, Americans’ data is secure, that the phones are secure and we’ll be looking to have discussions with Oracle over the next few days with our technical teams.”

Variety

The Great American Employer

Mnuchin even stated in the WSJ that the Oracle deal would result in TikTok creating 20,000 new jobs as they would be building a new global headquarters here. A claim that TikTok and ByteDance have continually made in every location they make inroads into, but one that this analysts has had previously been informed that many of those jobs will only be temporary, and would not last beyond one year from insider sources.

From other sources TikTok’s previous hiring of 20,000 employees internationally resulted in them hiring only 5% in their U.S. hires, but this may be due to the coronavirus pandemic.

The Algorithm Stays In China’s Hands “For You”

Much has been talked about TikTok’s user data and its servers here in the U.S. and the back-up in Singapore, but as in the last couple of weeks with Beijing stepping in abruptly to change its laws so that ByteDance would not be allowed to sell it A.I. without China’s permission. It is abundantly clear that TikTok’s security threat lies among its algorithms that power its artificial intelligence.

TikTok’s “For You” feature is what separates it from its competitors such as YouTube and Instagram, in shuffling random, very addictive short videos to your feed, and recently they have opened up their own “Transparency Center” which one of The Verge journalist took a virtual Zoom tour on.

He called it a “noble effort” but I will tell you what it really is. All the “Transparaceny Center” tells you is, TikTok’s algorithm is different from YouTube’s, Twitter’s, Instram’s, or Facebook’s, and that it is not any more transparent or non-addictive.

As we reported in our previous article on TikTok As A Future Security Threat we looked at the recent U.S. District Court case in Illinois brought by dozens of California families alleging, that the video-app was collecting facial and other data on their teen children and sending it back to China.

Brought on under the Illinois law, known as the Biometric Information Privacy Act and first reported by NPR. This form of data tracking can only be done by sophisticated algorithms such as artificial intelligence, and if only the data servers and users are operated by the U.S. “technology partner”. Then the original threat that TikTok posed here in the United States still stands even with a deal made with Oracle and the two American venture capital partners.

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Prediction: Kevin Mayer’s TikTok Exit is Due To Impending Federal U.S. Testifying

Kevin Mayer’s Sudden Departure as CEO of TikTok After Only 4 Months Could Be Due to Him Needing to Testify Before Congress, in TikTok’s Teen and Pre-Teen Data Collection.

Kevin Mayer’s Sudden Departure from TikTok as CEO After Only 2 Months, Along With Being the COO of ByteDance’s International Operations, Was a Surprise to Many But One. This Editor Predicted 3 Months Ago When It Was Announced He Got the Job, He May Be Gone By Year’s End.

It is Not A Surprise, As Beyond the Sudden Political Executive Order by Donald Trump, TikTok Faces at Least Two Federal Investigations, One from CFIUS and Another from the FTC (Which is a Follow-Up to an Investigation for Pre-Teen Data Collection That They Were Fined For).

Along With, A U.S. District Court Case for Using Artificial Intelligence to Collect Data on Teens in California, Under the Illinois law, known as the Biometric Information Privacy Act. – Yes, It’s Complicated (thank you NPR).

Any of Which Could See Kevin Mayer Called Under Oath to Testify.

Placing Him in a Parlous Situation if He Remained as CEO and COO of TikTok and ByteDance, Due to Any Non-Disclosure and Contractual Stipulations.

By Ryan Carroll, Managing Editor

August, 2020.

Editorial.

On August 27th Kevin Mayer in a letter to TikTok employees stated the Trump Administration and “political dynamics” have changed TikTok International, and that this is the reason why he is abruptly leaving the company.

While on the same day Walmart made it officially known that they were teaming up with Microsoft for its bid, against companies such as Twitter, Oracle, and the venture capital firms that are behind ByteDance itself (even though ByteDance is a Chinese entity based in Beijing, it is 70% financed by international foreign VC such as Sequoia Capital and General Atlantic in the U.S., and Softbank in Japan).

Walmart is an interesting turn of events but one not that surprising as they have signed a five-year deal with Microsoft’s cloud server Azure, and has implemented their Office 365 into their productivity applications. And, integrating TikTok into the upcoming Walmart+ launch could be a boon, as Walmart’s base is old and white (editor’s note: I am based in Fayetteville Arkansas, just miles from Bentonville the home of Walmart’s Home Office, and I have worked for the Sam Walton College of Business at the University of Arkansas), so witnessing Walmart’s base firsthand is a daily occurrence.

With Kevin Mayer’s extensive background and pedigree, and with the team-up of Walmart plus Microsoft bidding for TikTok, and Walmart’s CEO Doug McMillion obviously knowing Kevin Mayer on a personal level, as he knows Bob Chapek, the new CEO of Disney (if I am wrong about him testifying, it could be that Doug McMillion and Kevin Mayer do not have a good standing personal relationship…..). Why did Kevin Mayer suddenly step down?

I believe it has to do with the extensive investigations, and previous fines that TikTok has face, and is facing, on it collection of teen and pre-teen data, that Kevin Mayer was not aware of before taking the job. Along with, ByteDance’s attorneys recent written admittance U.S. District court:

TikTok’s legal team also argues that the company can transfer data to Beijing, if it so chooses, without breaking any laws…..”The App’s privacy policy also fully discloses that user data will be shared with TikTok’s corporate affiliates and third-party business partners and service providers, as is standard with free social networking apps that have a business model based on advertising,” TikTok lawyer Tony Weibell wrote in a submission to the court.

NPR

NPR reported on August 4th that several families representing dozens of minors (meaning children) are:

alleging that the video-sharing app collects information about their facial characteristics, locations and close contacts, and quietly sends that data to servers in China. Twenty separate but similar federal lawsuits were filed over the past year on behalf of TikTok users in California, where the company has offices, and Illinois, which requires that technology companies receive written consent before collecting data on a person’s identity. The suits now have been merged into one [sic] and U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Illinois [sic] by Judge John Z. Lee 

NPR

This allows for TikTok to share any and all data with “corporate affiliates” meaning other companies owned by ByteDance around the world, that are not named ByteDance, who may then share all data with ByteDance itself. So, third-part party partners and service providers are not even needed to hand the sensitive teen and potentially pre-teen data back to China and its other entities. According to ByteDance’s own attorney’s in a written statement to U.S. Court for the Northern District of Illinois.

This is not the first time that TikTok has collected data on teens, as the FTC has already found them guilty of collecting data on pre-teens and has even re-open the case this summer on suspension that they never stopped once they were fined.

TikTok agreed in February [2019] to pay a $5.7 million fine to the Federal Trade Commission over allegations the app illegally collected personal information from children under age 13 without parental consent, in violation of the Children’s Online Privacy Protection Act, Business Insider previously reported.

Business Insider

On July 7th the FTC stated that they are, again, looking into TikTok for not living up to the February 2019 agreement of protecting children under the age of 13 data and privacy rights.

(For Our Full Article on TikTok Teen / Pre-Teen Data Collection In And Beyond the United States Click Here)

When speaking to the Indian government in an official press briefing Kevin Mayer stated that:

“I can confirm that the Chinese government has never made a request to us for the TikTok data of Indian users,” CEO Kevin Mayer assured the Indian government. “If we do receive such a request in the future,” he added, “we would not comply.” That data, TikTok says, is stored in Singapore anyway, beyond the reach of Beijing.

Forbes

This is technically true but as the attorneys who were not only representing TikTok but ByteDance themselves in U.S. Federal Court stated, ByteDance does not need to request the data from TikTok itself to retrieve such data. And, if it did access that data itself from China, whether from its servers in the U.S. or Singapore, it would be completely legal; if they were teens or not.

My prediction of Kevin Mayer going before the FTC, CFIUS, the U.S. Federal District Court in Illinois, or a Congressional Committee, possibly before year’s end, is why he decided to end his tenure as CEO of Chinese-owed TikTok and COO of the Chinese company ByteDance.

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Tiktok Is A Future Security Threat – Not A Current One

TikTok’s dilemma is unlike any other Chinese app or social media company, in that nearly all its users are either – teens or pre-teens – and it is a Chinese tech company that is pretending to be an “international”, and more specifically a Silicon Valley “American” company.

Chinese-Owned TikTok has been in the news quite a bit the last two months and most of has not been good; from India to South Korea to Western Europe, and frequently the “unstable” Trump Administration.

TikTok’s dilemma is unlike any other Chinese app or social media company, in that nearly all its users are either – teens or pre-teens – and it is a Chinese tech company that is pretending to be an “international”, and more specifically a Silicon Valley “American” company.

By Ryan Carroll, Managing Editor

Analysis.

July, 2020.

TikTok vs the World: Beginnings: 2020 Sino-Indo Skirmishes / India App Bans

On June 15th what has been referred to as a “melee” broke out between Indian soldiers and soldiers of the Chinese People’s Liberation Army at the mountainous region of the Galwan Valley, at elevations up-to 14,000 feet, on the disputed Sino-Indian Border.

But, in reality, it was a battle of nearly 600 soldiers from both sides fighting in the dark for six-hours, using barbarous makeshift weapons (in 1996 saw an agreement banning the use guns and explosive at the disputed border), where 20 India soldiers where killed according to the Indian government.

The Indian government also claimed that 43 Chinese soldiers were also killed, and while China finally admitted to their commanding officer dying in the “melee”, according to a U.S. Intelligence Report 35 Chinese may have died in the incident.

These are the first deaths since the Sino-India War of 1962, but this incident had been building since May 5th of 2020 with:

As for the catalyst of the 2020 Sino-India Skirmishes there is probably a multitude of reason; from responses to India’s road and infrastructure building near the border, to the more overall consensuses that it is a “show of strength” during the COVID-19 Outbreak. Especially, with China’s first four months of poor handling of the outbreak in Wuhan, in an effort to to regain “face”.

Multiple skirmishes happened along the Sino-Indian border, not just the “melee” at the Galwan Valley. Near the disputed Pangong Lake in Ladakh and the Tibet Autonomous Region, and near the border between Sikkim and the Tibet Autonomous Region. Additional clashes also took place at locations in eastern Ladakh along the Line of Actual Control (LAC).

It also appears that China may have been using the situation of the COVID-19 outbreak gain territorial ground in the (LAC) disputed Sino-Indian Border. Though arguments can be made that both sides are at fault in the conflict, one side stands out at being more so that the other; China.

With one company, ByteDance, and its American subsidiary TikTok, taking the heat in the aftermath. Leading it into the spotlight that it may be a security threat to your teens and pre-teens data information, but not TODAY – as China plays the long game.

Data Collection on teens and pre-teens, not only in the United States but the Western World as a whole, along with our other allies in South Korea and Japan, that is being harvested by TikTok. Data that may not be shared directly to China and stored on servers in the Mainland, but is shared with Third Party sources that have all legal rights to share with China, and its government entities – according to TikTok and ByteDance’s own attorneys in U.S Federal Court documents.

Financial Loss for ByteDance – Loss of Face for Kevin Mayer

On June 29th India banned 59 Chinese apps but only two had any significance in the country TikTok and UC Browser (owned by Alibaba, and the second most used search browser behind Google and a small employer in India – but in the short, and long, term UC Browser is inconsequential in India), and it only took one day for TikTok to shut down in India. Followed by on August 7th India banned 47 more apps, while it is reviewing an additional 275 apps from China.

30% of TikTok’s users come from India accounting for 660M users in the Sub Continent, that were lost on June 30th, and it was projected that TikTok was going to gain another 150M users in India by the end of 2020. India itself was potentially the most fruitful future market for ByteDance, not just its subsidiary TikTok, as only 50% of the country is currently online.

UPDATE: TechCrunch reported on Aug 12th that Reliance and ByteDance began talking in June of Reliance taking over ByteDance’s operations in India, as their operations were said to be worth over $3BnUSD and have 2,000 employees in the Sub Continent. Reliance’s Jio Platforms have over 400M subscribers in India.

With the loss of Indian users, TikTok is looking to lose $6BnUSD for the remainder of 2020 from that market alone. The day after the app went down and Indian telecom companies no longer allowed the 660M users in India access to the app who already had the app on their devices, according to the Global Times of China:

[the] Chinese state-controlled media reports, TikTok owner ByteDance has invested more than $1 billion to build its vast Indian user base.

Forbes

Whether this $1BnUSD was spent in India or in China to build up the Indian user base is unclear, but the more important news that comes from the Forbes article is the statement from the newly minted CEO of TikTok, and COO of ByteDance LTD. (the Chinese company in Beijing) itself, Kevin Mayer. Who was the former Chairman of Direct-to-Consumer & International division at Disney, meaning he created and was the head of Disney+ and was thought to replace of Bob Iger as CEO of all of Disney, but was passed over (read our article here on Kevin Mayer joining TikTok).

“I can confirm that the Chinese government has never made a request to us for the TikTok data of Indian users,” CEO Kevin Mayer assured the Indian government. “If we do receive such a request in the future,” he added, “we would not comply.” That data, TikTok says, is stored in Singapore anyway, beyond the reach of Beijing.

Forbes

South Korean Seven-Month Long Investigation – TikTok Found Guilty & Fined Pre-Teen Data Collection / Data Sent to Two Foreign Countries

Kevin Mayer open letter to the Indian government on June 28th is a questionable deniability and culpability on the part of TikTok, as just two weeks after the Indian ban South Korea fined TikTok $155,000USD for collecting data on pre-teen children under the age of 14 without parental consent.

Over 6,000 pieces of data was illegally collected of South Korean children, and was not only sent to one foreign country but two: the United States and Singapore. All 6,000 pieces of child data collected by Chinese-owned TikTok, which is incorporated in the Cayman Islands as a VIE (Variable Interest Entity), are stored on data-servers not on Korea soil.

South Korea’s investigation began in October of 2019 and ended in July of 2020 with a fine of $155,000 dollars, and investigation that lasted 7 months and collected 6,000 pieces of data from underage users in South Korea.

The number of South Korean pre-teens and teens using TikTok pale in comparison compared to their United States and Indian counterparts, as South Korea only has 3.5M users in total compared to:

Children ages 4 to 15 in the U.S. UK and Spain spend an average of 80 mins watching videos on TikTok compared to 85 minutes per day on YouTube.

TechCrunch via data in the annual report by digital safety app maker Qustodio.

South Korea is not the only country to discover a violation of pre-teen data collection by TikTok and take action against the giant Chinese-own social media company. In 2019 the United States also found TikTok collecting data from children under the age of 13, to which:

TikTok agreed in February [2019] to pay a $5.7 million fine to the Federal Trade Commission over allegations the app illegally collected personal information from children under age 13 without parental consent, in violation of the Children’s Online Privacy Protection Act, Business Insider previously reported.

Business Insider

On July 7th the FTC stated that they are, again, looking into TikTok for not living up to the February 2019 agreement of protecting children under the age of 13 data and privacy rights.

TikTok’s abuse of collecting data from pre-teens from all around the world appears to be continuing, with even concerns that the data is going back to China. Though, CEO Kevin Mayer has publicly stated that all data is stored in servers here in the United States with back-ups in Singapore, but later in the article we will dive into official statements in court from TikTok attorneys in the U.S. that contradict what Mr. Mayer states. Though, it has nothing to do with Chinese servers.

But, first, a little more about China’s backdoor technology policies for American firms doing business in China (yes, this is a real thing! And, a law.), and on why TikTok is an actual threat compared to any other Chinese tech company such as Alibaba or Tencent. Which operates the social media app WeChat (called Weixin), that I will say is “not-a-threat” simply because no one uses it here, and the scope of the Trump Administration’s Clean Network initiative is beyond this article.

This did not stop Trump on August 6th from issuing an Executive Order by invoking the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA), stating that TikTok and WeChat has 45 days before a ban on any transactions with the two apps.

Now this is technically not a “ban” of either app in the United States but a way to undermine their abilities to make money money here, though for WeChat this is really not an issue as it only has 19M daily active users in the U.S. according to data firm Apptopia, and their advertisement revenue comes from China. (UPDATE: I wrongly put 1.5M Americans use WeChat, I pulled that figure from a wrong source)

I am skeptical about the 19M DAU as even though I am on WeChat I am not on it every day. This figure is more likely ‘registered users’ as there is only 6M Chinese diaspora in the United States, plus 370,000 students, who would be on it daily users, as WeChat is their primarily way of communicate back home to China. Among, a whole host of other uses, as a super-app.

But, for TikTok, it effectively will cut off all forms of revenue streams, ie. advertising, unless they make a sale to an American company within the 45 day window. Which will most likely to be Microsoft, now at a favorable price to the tech giant, or possibly Twitter who has joined the ring. Or, a combination of the two?

The problem with all of this is that Musical.ly (a Shanghai company, but the app was focused essentially on American teen users) has been in the U.S. with tens of millions of users since 2016. With its merger and creation of TikTok, under the Chinese tech giant ByteDance in 2018, the app been collecting data on 100M Americans – mostly teens and pre-teens.

Billions, if not trillions, of data points have stored on servers not just in the United States, but abroad in Asia, and have legally shared with third party sources. Who have no obligation in not sharing the data with Chinese entities or its government – to which we will dive into later.

UPDATE: Trump on Aug 14th signed a new Executive Order stating that CFIUS in 90 days would remove TikTok’s stake in Musicial.ly how this will effect Microsoft or Twitter’s takeover is unknown.

China’s Backdoor Into TikTok

I posted an article on LinkedIn Publishing (when that was still a thing) tilted Tim Cooks’ Focus on “Apple China” Supersedes User’s Data Risk on Feb. 21st 2018, that unlike all my other articles at that point, it never took off….. When some new “Apple China” news broke, I re-edited and polished off the article and re-published it here as There is No Apple, Only Apple China.

Highlighting the progress that Tim Cooks’ Apple has turned into a China backdoor spy surveillance tool, that he was fully aware of for profit and global (ie. I mean China market) expansion.

But, no one really, truly, took me seriously.

In this coming month’s issue of The Atlantic they have written an article on China’s Artificial Intelligence, surveillance, the One Belt, One Road Initiative, and using cheap dept and cheap tech to sell backdoor access to countries of influence; like never before.

In the early aughts, the Chinese telecom titan ZTE sold Ethiopia a wireless network with built-in backdoor access for the government. In a later crackdown, dissidents were rounded up for brutal interrogations, during which they were played audio from recent phone calls they’d made. Today, Kenya, Uganda, and Mauritius are outfitting major cities with Chinese-made surveillance networks.

The Atlantic

This example was years ago and in a third world country targeting Chinese dissidents, but looking at the two post from the China Law Blog here and here they highlight the fact that Chinese companies must adhere to one simple rule: allow a backdoor access for the Beijing Central Regulators at all time, or else. There are no borders to this rule, and this is why when Tencent has bought up foreign companies, mainly gaming, they have remained autonomous and allowed them to continue their business as if they are ran as a foreign entity. This is also why Alibaba has not expanded into many territories beyond Southeast Asia.

But, ByteDance and Zhang Yiming is the exception. His drive to create an “international” company supersedes that of the Two Mas, Pony Ma and Jack Ma of Tencent and Alibaba, and why he poses the greatest threat to Western National Security than ever before.

American Teens Making “I Love China” Videos and How China May Take Advantage of It & #IAtePasta and #ShampooAndConditioner

Why we should be concerned about TikTok as a “Future” National Security treat, and how it has nothing to do with the recent security findings in June that TikTok utilizing clipboard on iOS can access all of your connected Apple devices to grab all your data, after 1-3 keystrokes; from passwords, cryptocurrency wallet addresses, account-reset links, and personal messages.

In true TikTok form this problem occurred earlier in the year, also on Android devices, that TikTok blamed as a glitch and said that they had fixed, but both Apple and a independent security firm confirmed that this issue was deliberately still going on. With the problem still operational.

But, this is not the Future National Security treat that TikTok poses to the United States or other Western countries, in how it may disseminate data back to China. As Joe Bob’s cryptocurrency wallet information being known to the Chinese, holds little value to their Soft Power.

What TikTok has to offer is the wealth of teen and pre-teen data, especially psychological data. TikTok is even providing research for papers at the university level, and future books, on the psychology of teens and pre-teens in the United States, granting professionals access to them in masses that they have never had before. Meaning that via third party sources TikTok grants access to their data, allowing China and its vast entities access to this data as well (more on this later), and not a single data point is ever stored on servers in Mainland China. Just as TikTok, ByteDance, and CEO Kevin Mayer have stated – because there is no reason that it needs to be.

There are two concerning factors that have come to my attention over the course of the COVID-19 lockdown here in the United States, that has taken place specifically on TikTok by young Americans. Something that China could utilize as a potential Soft Power tool in the coming decades as these Americans come of age.

Firstly, is the “I Love China” satirical videos that many American Gen Z’ers have been making in recent months, in the hopes that it will either; boost their visibility on the app and get them featured in the app’s “For You” feed, or that they believe they have been shadow banned, and it will get them out of the “shadow ban” in a favorable position with the Chinese algorithm.

The #ILoveChina along with #ChinaIsAwesome really took off in April with hundreds of videos going up on TikTok. Many with American teens standing in front of images of the Chinese flag, the Chinese national anthem playing in the background, and some even kissing images of President of Xi Jianping. With the hope of playing towards the Chinese created algorithm, which TikTok shares lines of code with its sister app Douyin in Mainland China.

“My views were going down so I wanted to see if a video that praises China would do well in the algorithm and oddly enough it did,” Matt Norris, a 19-year-old TikTok user in the US, told Quartz. Norris, who has about 9,000 followers on the app, saw his China video—in which he says things like, “I love China… Xi Jinping is my bff” in fluent Mandarin—become one of his most popular clips….Some users have added the #ilovechina hashtag to videos that have nothing to do with China, perhaps because it has garnered nearly 50 million views as of Thursday (May 28).

QZ.com

This is not a one-off instance where a user has created a meme video that the platform turned viral, but a trend by a Chinese app, impersonating an American one, potentially pushing videos that reflect China’s Soft Power image.

The 13-second video, posted in April, shows Mr. Asaday in front of the Chinese flag while the country’s national anthem blares. Pointing to a photo of Xi Jinping, the 23-year-old calls the Chinese leader “my president.” By mid-May, his account skyrocketed from 2,000 fans to over 90,000. “I’d never seen any type of growth on my page until I made that joking video,” he said.

WSJ

This is the type of growth and influence China has been seeking since it entered the world stage at the turn of the 21st Century, something that it hoped its box-office would achieve but as it puts so much bureaucratic control over the content that reaches cinemas, that will never be the case.

Tech companies with little to no regulations in the U.S. (just look at Facebook with their allowance of Russian election interference and White Supremacist propaganda) have become the gateway for China’s Soft Power grab, but with only TikTok so-far penetrating the American zeitgeist.

One that they are willing to sit on data for decades before taking advantage of, as this is what China is good at. Creating 5, 10, even 15 year plans, something that the CCP can do being led by a centralized Politburo.

What concerns me the most about the #ILoveChina videos in the short-term is not China, but the psychological impact that they may impart on the already vulnerable teens and Gen Z generation. In terms if they, see a drop in their views / followers after they stop making “I Love China” videos.

The long-term effects would be, China utilizing the knowledge that they have; placing bots to follow them or actual agents to co-opt them into being more favorable towards the CCP.

The psychological impact, plus the vulnerable state heightened by the pandemic, and the fact that TikTok is a platform used by teens as a platform format to reach out to highlight their growing state of depression and anxiety is very well known in the professional community.

It has grown so much that there are even professional therapist and counselors who have Influencer status on platforms such as TikTok, creating mental health videos aimed at teens who are also reaching out to them for advice.

Licensed counselor Lindsay Fleming, L.P.C., who has nearly 150,000 followers on the app, says that most of her messages come from teenagers who are struggling with their mental health and feel uncomfortable seeking help elsewhere…..Therapist Micheline Maalouf, L.M.H.C., has over 160,000 followers on TikTok. “Some people said that my videos were the reason they decided to seek help from a therapist,” she tells Bustle. 

Bustle

While licensed professionals providing sound advice on TikTok is one thing, American teens posting highly private and sensitive information about their lives, is prized data for a Chinese company to collect for future use.

Recently, Gen Z-ers have been opening up about depression with seemingly innocuous phrases like “I finished my shampoo and conditioner at the same time” or “I ate pasta tonight.” The phrases come from a poem by Hannah Dains, titled “Don’t Kill Yourself Today.” Gen Z-ers have co-opted these lines to express feelings of depression, anxiety, or suicidality in videos that have garnered millions of views.

Bustle

In the pre-coronavirus pandemic lockdown:

A 2019 study published by the American Psychological Association, 91% of Gen Z-ers report having experienced one physical or emotional symptom of stress or depression, and are more likely to say their mental health is fair or poor.

Bustle

This study and the extensive use of TikTok for mental health outreach by the use of teens highlights the fact that those Gen Z’ers who have made the “I Love China” videos are potentially in a vulnerable state of being preyed upon by the Soft Power of the CCP. If they decided to use it.

Which is why I propose a government funded research grant is needed to study the long-term effect of the “I Love China” videos created on TikTok, for both National Security and teen psychological health, as even with the sale to a company such as Microsoft Corp. or Twitter this would not be the end of this story.

Now some may argue that I am being either; a little paranoid or overly Hawkish, to which I would say, neither. I may be a China Watcher and sometimes a China Hawk on certain issues, but I did work for the Chinese government on two occasions during my seven years of working there. First, as a Warner Brothers’ employee in their joint venture with the state-own China Film Group, where I worked only with the China Film Group employees – who I trained. Then I was a direct employee of the National Bureau of Statistics of China in Beijing, where I walked directly into one of their state-owned buildings several days a week. And, I have still passed two FBI background checks to work for our own Federal government here in the U.S. along with working with the State of Arkansas and the University of Arkansas – to which they know I was in China.

To those who have written on “There is Still No Proof TikTok is Spying On Us” articles your own tech advisers and arguments both fall flat, and your own argument that TikTok uses antiquated code in its security (unsecured HTTP), while uses sophisticated code to track data and AI facial recognition. Highlights that something is going on behind the scenes.

Federal Class-Action Lawsuit / AI / Data Tracking of Minors

NPR reported on August 4th that several families representing dozens of minors (meaning children) are:

alleging that the video-sharing app collects information about their facial characteristics, locations and close contacts, and quietly sends that data to servers in China. Twenty separate but similar federal lawsuits were filed over the past year on behalf of TikTok users in California, where the company has offices, and Illinois, which requires that technology companies receive written consent before collecting data on a person’s identity. The suits now have been merged into one [sic] and U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Illinois [sic] by Judge John Z. Lee 

NPR

If it proceed this could be incredibly detrimental to TikTok and its parent company ByteDance, but most likely will not halt the sale to Microsoft, Twitter, or whoever. Though, like Trump’s recent Executive Order this will probably provide leverage for the American tech companies in the negotiations, even though its foreign VC investors (Sequoia, General Atlantic, and Softbank, among others) who have invested around 70% of ByteDance’s equity valued TikTok at a ridiculous $50BnUSD when they were seeking a takeover bid.

[As] a lawsuit filed under the same Illinois law against Facebook over its use of facial recognition technology recently prompted the social network to agree to a record data-privacy settlement of $650 million. Legal experts said, if the court approves the TikTok lawsuit as a national case, the settlement sum could exceed the Facebook payout. [Under] the Illinois law, known as the Biometric Information Privacy Act.

NPR

Earlier in the article I talked about “Billions, if not trillions, of data points that they currently have stored in servers not just in the United States, but abroad, and have legally shared with third party sources (who have no obligation to not share with Chinese entities or the Chinese government – to which we will dive into later).” Well, this is that point, and it comes down the TikTok / ByteDance’s attorney’s to U.S. Federal Court on the record stating:

TikTok’s legal team also argues that the company can transfer data to Beijing, if it so chooses, without breaking any laws…..”The App’s privacy policy also fully discloses that user data will be shared with TikTok’s corporate affiliates and third-party business partners and service providers, as is standard with free social networking apps that have a business model based on advertising,” TikTok lawyer Tony Weibell wrote in a submission to the court.

NPR

TikTok’s CEO Kevin Mayer is correct when he stated that China never asks for data directly from TikTok, as it does not need to. TikTok provides all its data to third parties, which then turns around and hands it back over to the CCP and other entities of the Chinese State.

It also states that TikTok may share any and all data with “corporate affiliates” meaning other companies owned by ByteDance around the world, that are not named ByteDance, who may then share all data with ByteDance itself. So, third-part party partners and service providers are not even needed to hand the sensitive teen and pre-teen data back to China and its entities.

Findings of technology experts hired by the plaintiffs’ attorneys. Those experts, who studied the collection and journey of TikTok data, claim troves of information are being sent to servers in China “under the control of third-parties who cooperate with the Chinese government,” according to the lawsuit…..”Such information reveals TikTok users’ precise physical location, including possibly indoor locations within buildings, and TikTok users’ apps that possibly reveal mental or physical health, religious views, political views, and sexual orientation,” attorneys for users wrote in legal filings.

NPR

Why is China collecting data on American teens? Their psychological health, physical health, religious views, sexual orientation, and political views? As power tools to be used in future Soft Power events when they deem necessary. Russia’s 2016, and current, election meddling is nothing compared to what the Chinese spy agencies are doing with teen social media data gathering for future use, and it is beyond scary.

Even with a sale of TikTok, the damage is already done.

Nota Bene: “Non-American TikTok” vs the World (Primarily Europe)

I began writing this article at the end of July and as I was set to finish the last section of it before publishing, was when Donald Trump began railing on about potentially banning TikTok over the weekend. The news kept coming, but the core thesis, outline, and argument for this article remained the same; something I have been developing since I read the article in Quartz of American teens making “I Love China” videos on TikTok, and how this could not only be detrimental to their mental health if their video views / likes went up or down.

But, more importantly, how China may use this type of influence as a form of Soft Power later on down the line. By manipulating these very teens, via algorithm of how this videos and TikTok feeds overall perform, placing a positive light on a Chinese major tech company and in return the CCP themselves.

One thing that should be noted about the Microsoft, or should I say potential Microsoft purchase of TikTok is that it is only for the U.S., Canadian, Australian, and New Zealand markets, and nowhere else. It would not be for TikTok internationally for for even TikTok in Western Europe.

Just as Microsoft was in talks acquire TikTok is the aforementioned regions, rumors that TikTok was also moving ahead with talks to move their international headquarters office to London.

If TikTok is found guilty in American Federal Court under the Biometric Information Privacy Act, wait until they have to face Europe’s much more stringent GDPR! Don’t expect me to write about that.

Even the Former Intelligence and Operations Director at the British Secret Intelligence Service, MI6, and leading expert on China’s cyber threat at the International Institute for Strategic Studies, warns not to use TikTok for security reasons.

With data from Ofcom figures showing almost half of eight to 12-year-olds are using it.

The story has yet to end as the “international” version of TikTok will continue on.

CORRECTION: In an earlier post we stated that India had 660M TikTok users, that was incorrect. India has 660M internet users as of 2020.

Stay Tuned China Watchers!

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Is China Facing a Second or Multiple Mini-Waves of The COVID-19 Coronavirus Outbreak?: Cinemas Across China Re-Close / Hong Kong & Japan Face Reemerging Lockdown

With Hubei Residents allowed to leave the Province to the rest of China, and others to enter Wuhan, could they be asystematic and carry the COVID19 coronavirus to other cities where people have no immunity causing a second wave of outbreaks?

By Ryan Carroll, Managing Editor

March, 2019

NOTE. This article will be updated as needed, and will be reposted across social media when done so. #BeSafe & #BeKindToOthers

Variety reported in the early hours of March 27th that Chinese Cinemas had “re-shuttered” after about 500 screens across 4 provinces and 2 autonomous regions, had re-opened for less-than a week.

These cinemas were mostly far from the major cities of the Eastern Coast, with the exception of two of the provinces.

This reporting, and the tweet itself by the Variety reporter Rebecca Davis, is the reason why I am writing this article. An article I was not planning on writing, as the views were just some personal analysis I had shared to a few close friends late last night and early this morning.

That China may be facing a second wave, or possibly multiple small outbreaks, because as of Wednesday, residents in Hubei who have a Green QR code were allowed to leave the province. Along with many who were not allowed to enter the province, who also have a Green QR code, can enter the province.

Also, for the first time those with Green QR codes could enter the city of Wuhan, but if they did they could not leave.

A Green QR code on every Chinese citizen’s (and foreigner’s too) smartphone signifies that you have been tested and passed a health screening. But, Caixin Global is reporting that asystematic patients are still being found in the Greater Wuhan Area but are not being reported in the statistics in China.

As asystematic people can pass along the virus to people who have not previously have had the virus themselves, but in the province of Hubei over the two month period. It is reasonable to assume that the majority of the population had contact with the COVID-19 coronavirus in one form or another. Thus building, at the least, short-term anti-bodies to it.

This is the issue that the rest of China now faces. As Dr. Anthony Fauci has stated many many times, that the United States itself may face the same situation itself. Even coming next winter during the flu season for Americans.

As, yes, China’s draconian containment methods, along with Asian cultural and societal norms, that cannot be replicated here in the West, were incredibly effective in preventing the spread of the COVID-19 coronavirus outside the Greater Wuhan Area. But, without large population immunity and antibodies build-up within the society, if the virus has moved outside of Hubei. China may be facing the same situation it faced just one month ago.

I do hope I am wrong, and that I am just being paranoid while I self-isolate and can look back at this article with a sense of relief, and repost it with an emoji face with the little sweat bead with the caption: “got that one wrong.”

But, in the coming days we will be seeing how the situation in Hong Kong and Tokyo / Japan unfolds. As both cities / nation appear to be facing a re-emergence of the virus and need for a complete government ordered lockdown.

UPDATE: Hong Kong for the first time has shuttered all cinemas across the islands, while in Tokyo Toho has closed its doors, and in South Korea CJ Entertainment’s CGV is closing down 30% of its theaters today (Saturday as of this update), as reported by Deadline.

Stay Tuned China Watchers, and Please Be Kind To One Another. Humanity Is In This Together – No Matter Where You Are. A Little Compassion Helps.

All things are part of one single system, which is called Nature; the individual life is good when it is in harmony with nature.

Zeno of Citium

Sympatheia: n. The belief in mutual interdependence among everything in the universe….that we are all one.

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Why Disney Should Release ‘Mulan’ on Chinese Streaming-on-Demand and Give Its Box-Office Cut to Cinemas as a Coronavirus Relief Fund – Opinion

Disney should release ‘Mulan’ on streaming-on-demand in China, and give its box-office cut to cinemas as a coronavirus relief fund.

Trades and Analysts Have Been Proclaiming How Mulan‘s Success Rides on Its Performance at the China Box-Office, While Overlooking the Key Factor in How Much Disney Will Actually Take From the Ticket Receipts and How it will Effect the Overall Bottom Line.

The Key to Mulan‘s Success in China Resides in How Much it Will Drive Traffic to Shanghai Disneyland, and Generate in Licensing and Merchandise Down the Road. Same as Star Wars in China.

This is Why Disney China Should Release Mulan Across All Major Streaming Platforms; Tencent Video, iQiyi, Youku, Bilibili, MangoTV, and even ByteDance’s Xigua Video and Douyin, as Streaming-on-Demand. Providing Its Box-Office Receipts to Aid Cinemas in a “Coronavirus Recovery Relief Fund”.

By Ryan Carroll, Managing Editor

March, 2019.

Opinion

From January 25th, the start of the Chinese New Year Spring Festival celebration, to the end of February the China Box-Office lost an estimated $2.5BnUSD in ticket sales alone.

This revenue loss for the cinema industry in China does not take into account; lost concessions (more on that later), merchandising (a growing segment in China), online ticketing app fees (over 90% of all movie ticket are bought via mobile apps), and other related movie-going expensive. And, even non-movie-going expenses like eating out, taking the metro, or taxi / ride-sharing service, are unknown.

To have a little understanding that the shutdown of the COVID-19 coronavirus had on China, a little economic comparison that most people can relate to is in order:

The China Box-Office in the 20 days from the beginning of the Chinese New Year Spring Festival produced $3.9MM in revenue, compared to $1.52Bn over the same timeframe in 2019.

Spring Festival 2019 – $1,520,000,000

Spring Festival 2020 – $3,900,000

As I normally abbreviate my millions and billions of dollars, I wanted to write it out as the visualization of this number is staggeringly more obvious.

Cinemas Selling Concessions Online, Under Cutting China’s eCommerce & New Retail Prices

With absolutely no revenue coming in for over a month and no sign of when the Beijing government will allow not cinema chains to reopen anytime soon. They have issued guidelines to the movie theaters on seating arrangements, but it was later reported that these guidelines were just for future implementation.

That every other seat and every other row shall remain empty, patrons will be required to keep their face masks on for the duration of the movie, and after every screening the entire screening room will be disinfected.

Future guideline for movie theater safety as COVID-19 restriction begin to be lifted.

With revenue not in sight and overstocked concession inventory, movie theater chains from the smallest to the biggest in the country, Wanda Cinema. Are selling snacks and bottles of water online at discounted prices.

Selling inventory with free delivery at competitive or better prices than Alibaba’s popular New Retail store HEMA. With one cinema was selling Evian that is even beating out the retail price.

But, with concession sales like this, at discount prices and free delivery, every cinema chain is still going to be ‘in the red’ for Q1 of 2020. With some smaller cinemas, and even smaller cinema chains potentially going out of business if they are not bailed out by the government and film bureau.

Mulan is a “Huge Risk” for Disney

Disney’s live-action remake of Mulan is just the next-in-line of Disney animated films being adapted into live-action features, but from every trade and outlet out there one would think that adapting Mulan poses such a financial risk to the House of the Mouse. That it does not fit into an established business trend that Disney has been following, and establishing for nearly a decade. Without a single miss.

A risk that only being major success at the China Box-Office could mitigate, due to the; extraordinary budget ($200MMUSD), on an all-Asian cast, and its adaptation from a Chinese ballad and a “risky” Disney 90s classic.

Which just happened to feature Eddie Murphy as a beloved talking Dragon sidekick. NOTE. Mulan (1998) grossed $304.3MM and was nominated for the Academy Award and Emmy for Best Animated Feature.

poster for Mulan 1998 Disney animated movie

So far, none of Disney’s live-action remakes have faltered at the box-office, Cinderella, Maleficent, Aladdin, nor The Lion King which is why they had moved on to make Mulan. It is a successful trend with a built in audience, but not one of these films have broken out at the China Box-Office, such as the Marvel Cinematic Universe has.

But, it is Disney’s $200MM “Bold Gamble” with an All-Asian Cast that everyone (not just The Hollywood Reporter that I have hyperlinked) is talking about. Proclaiming that without a potential China Box-Office release, due to it being pulled “delayed” because of the coronavirus, that it may falter or bomb at the worldwide box-office and be a miss for Disney.

First of all, the reliance of Hollywood’s take at the China Box-Office is highly over-stated, as I have pointed out many times (most recently in my 2019 China Box-Office Overview), but let’s look at the trend of Disney live-action remakes of classic animated movies. Along with their China Box-Office takes, to get a better example of where Mulan truly stands.

  • Maleficent (2014) budget: $180-$263MM, Box-Office: $758.5MM, China Box-Office: $47.7MM (studio take 25% = $11.92MM)
  • Cinderella (2015) budget: $95-$100MM, Box-Office: $542.4MM, China Box-Office $71.1MM (studio take 25% = $17.77MM)
  • The Jungle Book (2016) budget: $177, Box-Office: $996.6MM, China Box-Office: $150.1MM (studio take 25% = $37.5MM)
  • Beauty and the Beast (2017) budget: $160-$255MM, Box-Office: $1.26BnUSD, China Box-Office: $85.8MM (studio take 25% = $21.4MM)
  • Dumbo (2019) budget: $170MM, Box-Office $353.5, China Box-Office: $21.9MM (studio take 25% = $5.4MM)
  • Aladdin (2019) budget: $183MM, Box-Office: $1.05Bn, China Box-Office: $53.5MM (studio take 25% = $13.3MM)
  • The Lion King (2019) budget: $250-$260M, Box-Office: $1.657Bn, China Box-Office: $120.4MM (studio take 25% = $30.1MM)

Average = $78.6MM (studio take average 25% = $19.6MM)

Mulan was expected to play better than the previous Disney live-action remakes, but the notion that the China Box-Office is a “Obi-Won, Only Hope” for this average budgeted Disney live-action remake is blatantly false.

Most likely Mulan would have made $150MM so Disney would have taken home $37.5MM, if Mulan was a true breakout movie and made $250MM then Disney would have been looking at $62.5MM. A number that would have obviously contributed to Disney’s bottom line.

Tax Right Off For Disney

With the worldwide release of Mulan fast approaching, March 27th, Disney has a choice to make. As it is clear that even if movie theaters in China are open they will be at such a limited capacity it would not be in Disney’s favor to open the film. While it is also reasonable to suspect that the China Film Bureau will impose a “blackout period” for some timeframe after cinemas resume to normal, so that the local film market may find some form of recovery.

This is why it may be in Disney and Disney Shanghai’s interest to begin negotiating with the China Film Bureau about releasing Mulan, day-and-date, across every major streaming platform; Tencent Video, iQiyi, Youku, Bilibili, MangoTV, and even Xigua Video / Douyin (TikTok). For a set period of time, as a Streaming-on-Demand (Video-on-Demand), at a theatrical movie ticket price. With revenues split between the streaming platforms and the cinemas across the country, as a form of “coronavirus relief” fund.

Disney would also forfeit their 25% box-office ticket receipt and contribute it towards the cinemas’ “coronavirus relief” fund. How the revenue share will be split will be determined by the China Film Bureau, and distributed by them.

Cinemas could also sell concessions with at home delivery, as mentioned earlier in the article, which they are already doing.

Mobile ticketing apps such as Maoyan and Tiao Piaopiao could be involved via marketing the release of Mulan on streaming platforms with proceeds going towards the cinemas “coronavirus relief” fund. Which is part of their business model to begin with, along with purchasing tickets.

For Disney this would be a loss, but only in the short-term. As we see the average animated live-action remake is $78.6MM, but Mulan would probably be in the range of the two highest grossing films $120-$150MM. Disney would potentially be able to write-off a loss of $100-$150MM on Mulan for 2020, with this strategy.

But, the write-off is nothing compared to what is really at stake for what Mulan means to Disney Shanghai’s bottom line, and it has nothing to do with the China Box-Office.

Bob Chapek’s First Step in Taking His Own Ride of a Lifetime

In a somewhat surprise move Bob Iger stepped down early as CEO, to remain on as just Executive Chairman for the remainder of his tenure at Disney, and he promoted Bob Chapek who oversaw the Parks, Experiences and Products, as CEO.

After taking over as CEO one of Bob Iger’s first steps, was buying Pixar, and beginning the long process to building Shanghai Disneyland. A theme park achievement that is up there with Iger’s other achievements as Disney CEO such as purchasing Marvel and Star War (Lucasfilm).

A theme park which is going to take a revenue loss of $175MMUSD as it may remain closed for two months because of the COVID-19 coronavirus, along with a $40MM hit from Hong Kong Disneyland.

Other than the Marvel Cinematic Universe, which has made $2.6BnUSD to-date at the China Box-Office, the goal of Disney movies and Star Wars movies is to drive Chinese audiences to Disney Shanghai and towards merchandise and licensed products.

As we recently saw with Rian Johnson’s Knives Out made more money than Star Wars Episode IX: Rise of Skywalker at the China Box-Office, but Rise of Skywalker licensed products and merchandising went gangbusters in China.

Which has been Disney Shanghai and Bob Iger’s long-term strategy for Star Wars in China since the beginning.

The same can be said for Mulan and just as Bob Iger begins his prologue in A Ride of a Lifetime about the opening ceremony for Disney Shanghai, and the tragic event of a boy being killed by a crocodile at the Disney Resort in Orlando. This is a moment where Bob Chapek as the new CEO of Disney, can utilize its massive resources to not only do something that is good for the situation of cinemas who are hurting in China; but for the better of Disney Shanghai as a whole.

All things are part of one single system, which is called Nature; the individual life is good when it is in harmony with nature.

Zeno of Citium

Sympatheia: n. The belief in mutual interdependence among everything in the universe….that we are all one.

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China-Financed Faraday Future to Use Facial Recognition in FF91 – Even on Child Rear Seat Riders?

Chinese owned, but American made, Electric Vehicle car company Faraday Future will use Facial Recognition in the back seat of their cars even if there are child riders. Will China gain access to this data?

Troubled Electric Vehicle Faraday Future Has Announced They Will Use Facial and Voice Recognition Technology on All Rear Passengers of Their Upcoming FF91.

Will Beijing Gain Access to This Data as the Faraday Future is Founded by Troubled Billionaire Jia Yueting, Better Known as JYT, Who Has the Controlling Stake in the Company as China Attempts to Collect the $4BnUSD JYT Owes Collectors Across China?

Disclaimer this author consulted with JYT’s LeEco’s North American expansion for over half a year and did not get paid for that consultancy – though, so did many many others – this author wrote two pieces one on JYT’s Financial Troubles then another on FF Needing To Oust JYT As EV Lucid Motors Had on LinkedIn Publishing. From his ancillary experience of LeEco’s failed North American launch, and seven years prior experience of living and working in China.

By Ryan Carroll, Managing Editor

February, 2020.

Editorial Analysis

Faraday Future also integrated multiple cameras into the cabin that rely on facial recognition technology to identify the passengers via what the company calls an FFID. Once it knows who is on board, the car adjusts the music, the temperatures, the massage function, and the ambient lighting settings accordingly. It even knows which scent you like to smell. And, alternatively, if it can’t see your face, it knows who you are by memorizing your voice and your weight.

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With people here in the United States concerned about data, especially after the 2016 election scandal and Facebook’s blatant selling of personal data. Let alone of the other giant technology companies and their mishandling of personal data. One of them being Apple China who we have examined at here on SilkCelluloid.com last year.

The concerns of facial recognition is not something on the minds of most Americans, especially not in regards to their children, or something they would consider in the safety of their own person automobile. Let alone the possibility of that data potentially getting into the hands of the Chinese government.

Even though Faraday Future is an American Made EV, it is majority owed and almost completely financed by China.

It’s Founder JYT still owns 33% of the startup, while Chinese real estate turned movie studio magnate Evergrande owns 32%. Though when they first bailed out the company and JYT a few years back their ownership was supposed to be 45%.

From reading the tea leaves the bailout breakup between Evergrande and JYT may have been a result of JYT still wishing to maintain control over Faraday Future. Resulting what should have been good news for the EV startup but everything for JYT seems to be rocky of late.

JYT is on China’s ‘debtor blacklist’ and has all of his accounts frozen in China, resulting in him filing for Chapter 11 Bankruptcy in October of 2019 to settle nearly $4BnUSD of debt owed in China. Then in December of that year the Department of Justice Office of Trustee suddenly stepped in with a motion stating that JYT has:

“failed to uphold his fiduciary duty to the estate by engaging in dishonest behavior” and [stating] Jia “has demonstrated an inability to manage his estate.”

The Verge – US Trustee Representative Andrew Vara

Putting into question JYT’s continued equity control if bankruptcy protection does not hold and the government begins coming after his assets.

This could lead to the other stake holders most likely Evergrande to step in and make a motion to secure JYT’s remaining 33% if the government does take these messures.

It should also be noted that FF also has another new investor from China Shanghai mobile gaming company The9. Who is the former China license holder and distributor of World of Warcraft in China, the country that had sustained WoW for years beyond its lifespan here in the West.

NOTE. We should not also forget the mystery 2018 Hong Kong equity investor into FF, when JYT was already placed on the debtor blacklist, and as many seasoned China Watchers know that when a Hong Kong company invests into a Chinese-related company such as FF abroad. It is usually a Hong Kong-registered China-owed company, with financial backing from Mainland China behind it. In February of 2018 this unnamed Hong Kong investor made a deposit of $550MMUSD with a total of $1.5BnUSD going into the company on a rolling basis once undisclosed “milestones” were met. Neither the equity stake nor the name of the investor were listed.

This ownership question and China’s questionable record of facial recognition software use puts data concerns on whether or not the facial and voice recognition would be monitoring children as they get into and out of FF91 vehicles. Whether that data would be collected and stored into the automobile, and whether that data would then be transferred to Faraday Future’s office or to the cloud.

Provided that access and theft of data is also major concern, as data breaches on a personal or major corporate level are all too common.

If there is the potential of the FF91 collecting facial and voice recognition data from an American minor, storing it and China having access to this data without it being brought to the attention of the owners of the vehicles, the American Free Press, or our Regulating Bodies then this is an issue.

This type of technology is not TikTok – the Congress should be more concerned with Huawei and 5G than a short-format video app – and we are talking about facial recognition that will have long-term implications as it is directly related to the development of Artificial Intelligence and Machine Learning.

Faraday Future has been the Little Electric Vehicle Company That Could and Jia Yueting has been in self-exile in his Santa Monica mansion from China for several years, avoiding not just paying his $4BnUSD in debts but possibly jail time if he is unable to pay off those debts.

If his Chapter 11 bankruptcy does not go well and he is forced to go back to China to pay his debt, he may have to give up his 33% equity stake (and majority control) of Faraday Future to the Chinese State Government. Which could lead to FF getting the cash influx they need to get the FF91 to market so that their backseat facial and voice recognition system is deployed in the United States. An issue that should be of concern.

Stay Tuned China Watchers!

If you do not think that Beijing is serious about facial recognition….then.

YouTube video of facial recognition at a public toilet to dispense toilet paper

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China Streaming or China Dreaming? The Outlook for Foreign VOD

Outlook on China’s Streaming Services for 2020.

The numbers coming out of China continue to amaze. There are 855 million digital consumers in China and they have more than twice as many internet users as the US has people.

By Mathew Alderson, Guest Columnist

Analysis.

December, 2019.

The Chinese are spending an average of 358 minutes per day online. They spend 8% of their online time streaming video content. A further 11% of online time is spent watching short videos, something that 800 million Chinese now do regularly.

Despite these big numbers, China’s internet penetration rate is still only 60%, online video growth has plateaued, and regulatory control is tightening.  Things have changed a bit since we last touched on streaming trends, so let’s look at the outlook for 2020

1. Production has slowed down. 

Contributing factors include a crackdown on entertainment industry taxation in the wake of the Fan Bingbing tax evasion scandal and subdued economic conditions generally — China’s economic growth is at a 27 year low and, according to some reports, nearly 2,000 Chinese film and TV companies have gone bust this year. The trade war is also contributing to reducing cooperation between Hollywood and Chinese production companies. All of this means fewer co-productions and collaborations, replaced by a lot of reviewing, reconsidering and waiting to see.

2.  Production has become more difficult. 

More and more subjects are off-limits, for both domestic Chinese and foreign content owners. Look what happened with The Eight Hundred. Even a reputable, major Chinese company like H Bros. couldn’t read the tea leaves. On the foreign side, several leading TV production companies have recently pulled out of China, giving local production difficulties as a reason.

3.  There’s no longer any market for foreign formats. 

China is no longer the biggest international market for foreign format owners. For many foreign companies, China is now one of the smallest markets for their formats. This is the result of 2016 regulations targeting foreign TV formats and specious co-productions. Challenges for foreign formats have been cited by UK trade body PACT in connection with its suspending its activities in China.

4.  There’s less foreign content but Chinese viewers don’t care. 

Recent regulatory intervention has resulted in less foreign content being bought for streaming in China. While the changes were working their way through the system there was conjecture about the impact. It’s now clear that China streamers and audiences seem quite comfortable with fewer foreign TV series. iQiyi, which has the second highest number of subscribers,  estimates that only 10% of its subscribers prefer US TV series, although the proportion is higher for foreign films

5.  Production focus has shifted to original content. 

Most content is now original as opposed to acquired or licensed. This original content is mostly local-language Chinese. There is now far less demand for production of foreign or foreign-invested content.

6.  Adaptations and remakes of foreign programs are out. 

This has put scripted foreign content under pressure. Foreign content libraries can no longer be mined so easily for Chinese adaptations.  Adaptations and remakes are subject to a de facto ban.

7.  Foreign animation is now caught by the quota. 

In the past, foreign animation was exempt but, as part of changes introduced in 2018, it now comes within the 30% streaming quota applicable to foreign content.

8.  US streamers are not getting in. 

Despite frequent rumors and reports to the contrary, there is no reason to expect US streamers will be allowed to operate their own channels or do anything other than license their content for China within the 30% streaming quota.

9.  AVOD is down. 

Ad-supported revenue is shrinking. Tencent, which has the highest number of subscribers in China, disclosed in its Q3 filing a 28% decrease in advertising revenues. Unpredictability and uncertainty in scheduling releases were cited as the reasons. iQyi has also been hit by decreasing advertising revenue.

10.  SVOD is up. 

Subscription revenue is up relative to AVOD. It is now nearly the same as, if not more than, ad-supported revenue. The Chinese are now willing and able to pay for premium content or pay to avoid ads. This, together with improvements in IPR enforcement in China, has driven online piracy down to the point that it is no longer a major problem. But as indicated above, growth has slowed.

11.  China streamers are paying less and buying non-exclusively. 

This applies to both foreign and domestic content owners. Co-operation among streamers is up as they share quota spots and help each other with content license fees.

12.  No, China’s film “market” won’t eclipse North America’s in the near term. 

Despite the growth in digital distribution, ancillaries are mostly VOD and they still only account for about 25% of the market. Box office is still the biggest revenue source. It makes up around 75% of the market. Note that in North America the opposite applies — ancillaries are the greater part of that market. Reports predicting China’s “market” will soon eclipse North America’s can be misleading if they compare box office takings without considering the more substantial ancillaries in North America.

13.  Caution and uncertainty will continue during these “red” years. 

This year was the 70th anniversary of the founding of the People’s Republic. 2021 will be the 100th anniversary of the establishment of the Party. Regulatory caution and industry uncertainty will likely continue in the near term. Whether you’re a Chinese regulator, a Chinese producer, or a foreign studio executive, it won’t be a good time to be taking risks or pushing boundaries.

Here’s the thing: China may be getting harder for foreign business but it’s just too big to ignore. Foreign companies with a serious commitment and a realistic business model can still make it in these conditions and we are working with some that are. Generally, in the current climate, licensing-led approaches will be more advantageous than focusing on local production.

Stay Tuned China Watchers!

This article originally appeared in China Law Blog.

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After ‘Ne Zha’ is China Ready for Their Own Superhero Universe?

With “Ne Zha” making over $700MM at the China Box-Office this could be the beginning of the Chinese superhero, not only the rise of Chinese Animation aka Sinomation.

Ne Zha has become only the 7th film ever to cross $700MMUSD worldwide and only the 2nd to do so at the China Box-Office, making it the second highest grossing film ever there behind Wolf Warrior 2.

By Ryan Carroll, Editor-at-Large

Sept. 2019

Analysis

With the inception of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, the Shared Universe model has attempted to be replicated by multiple studios, to less fanfare than they would have imagined possible. With Warner Bros / DC Ent. even struggling to create their own, from an already established shared DC Comic Universe.

Like the other studio attempts, this shared universe did not have a singular creative mind behind it, as its architect. Rather, it had meddling from studio execs, and divergent creative heads, with an absence of an editorial mind to converge all the pieces together in long-term vision and plan.

As Hollywood begins to get dismayed in their, rushed, attempts to create their own franchised shared universe successes, another emerging film market has been looking at this business model.

The China Box-Office. Where the Marvel Cinematic Universe has already made $2.8BnUSD and with the upcoming release of Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings, we could be looking at $3.3Bn-$3.5BnUSD for the MCU in the Middle Kingdom.

China already has their own history of serialization in the form of serial fiction, the literature version of the film serial. A common form of cinema that saw its Golden Age in the 1930s and 40s, and it has been argued that the MCU is the modern day version of the serialized movie. 

Legend of the Condor Heroes, by Jin Yong (the Lord of the Rings of Chinese literature)

Jin Yong, Gu Long, and other wuxia novelist have had their stories published in serialized formats in both Hong Kong and Taiwan, in magazines and newspapers, before making their way to book form.

With Jin Yong selling over 100M books, not including the bootlegged copies sold in Mainland China. Where he is regarded as, one of their most famous writers.

While Tencent’s China Literature’s entire business model (based on Qidian’s – the first Freemium online publishing site in China), is made up of releasing stories in the serialized format, one chapter at a time.

Designed not only in a way to profit more heavily through micro-purchases of each chapter, but it fits into the busy smart device on-the-go consuming nature of the modern urban Chinese. While also being a format, from the print world, that is familiar to Chinese in the recent past.

snippet of Legend of the Condor Heroes Ming Pao magazine

Starting in the 1930s up through the 1940s, it was common to have short cartoons (Looney Toons / Tom and Jerry / early Disney), short-form films (The Three Stooges), and serialized pictures to be shown before the beginning of the featured matinee. An early studio model that was utilized in way to get people coming back week-after-week. With such iconic characters such as, Batman and Shazam! (then called Adventures of Captain Marvel) having their first onscreen appearances in serial films.

This in itself stems from the serialized nature of storytelling in the heyday of radio (something that is having a small resurgence in the podcast sphere – which sounds exciting!), which also utilized comic book superheroes in their tales. 

How Superman Fought the KKK… FOR REAL! || NerdSync

We even saw a small revival of short format films from Marvel themselves, in their Marvel One-Shots, to fill in the gap between the Marvel Cinematic Universe serial movies. Something that I personally loved, and other than the audio commentaries, were the reason to even purchase the Blu-ray upon its release.

So, why have we not seen something like this in China? Some may argue that we have! In the form of incredibly long television story-arcs, to which I disagree. Even though in TV we do have serialized storytelling, it is not the same.

A television show may have a beginning, middle, end, and can have a serialized nature to it, most recently seen in Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. They are not serials.

Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. promo logo

Television shows are series, as film serials & serialized novels, are designed to be open ended; even though they have an ending. Something similarly seen in comic book universes, since Marvel modernized the industry in the 1960s. While TV series are designed to eventually come to an end, and have a definitive stopping point at that time. Or, it will leave a sour taste in its audience, who has spent, potentially years, invested into its narrative.

Though, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and the Arrowverse over at the CW, began taking serial format to heart, particularly after their first seasons, but neither were designed from their conception to be a serial picture, but a series itself.

TV or streaming shows in China, which though they have a serialized narrative, are still series in that they always have a conclusion, in some form or another, at the end of their run.

This does not need to be the case in China, especially in their film industry. We the beginning of a serialized cinematic universe (movie serial) in the form of Huayi Bros’ (pretty-good) Detective Dee franchise from Hong Kong director, Tsui Hark. But, not one of a shared cinematic universe.

Cover of the original Mingy Dynasty Detective Dee story that went on to be adapted by European crime novelist into the Detective Dee series we know today

During the closing credits of the prequel-sequel Young Detective Dee: Rise of the Sea Dragon were graphic illustrations hinting to other upcoming adventures from the Detective Dee franchise. A series that has a long history in China, and in the West, as it was originally a Gong’an detective novel from the Qing Dynasty in the 18th Century, and later readapted by Dutch diplomat turned novelist, of the modern day Judge Dee series.

A series that became akin to its Western counterparts, Sherlock HolmesHercule Poirot, and Edgar Allen Poe’s C. Auguste Dupin, but with an “orientalist” twist.

Huayi Bros have the opportunity to create their own shared cinematic universe, by taking their already proposed movie serial franchise, Detective Dee and building upon it from the wealth of stories already available in print.

Detective Dee was the blueprint that Ne Zha followed in that it took a famous Chinese story and modernized it with Chinese familiar elements, adding them together with those of the popular Marvel Cinematic Universe superhero trope.

Another genre that teeters on the edge of Chinese-ness and those of Western superhero elements is the Tomb Raider genre in China, that Mojin: The Lost Legend and its sequels best represent.

A film that began as a serialized story on Tencent’s China Literature, as Ghost Blows Out the Light, before moving to the big and small (streaming video) screen, and one where you can see its genres elements help propel both the superhero films of Aquamanwhere we discuss in our podcast – and Alicia Vikander’s Tomb Raider at the China Box-Office.

Ne Zha with over $700MM at the China Box-Office, the three film franchise of Detective Dee, along with the Tomb Raiding genre that saw Marvel Comics teaming with NetEase Comics to launch the Chinese Superhero Sword Master in China and now here in the U.S. We may finally be seeing the rise of the Chinese Superhero Genre and over the next decade we also could be seeing the Chinese Superhero finding his own voice, just as we saw with the superhero of Japan finding their own in like of Ultraman, and those of manga and anime such as, My Hero Academia.

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Has Alibaba Lost Its Genie?

With Jack Ma’s retirement has Alibaba Group lost its Genie?

With Jack Ma’s Retirement Has Alibaba Group Lost Its Genie?

By Ryan Carroll, Managing Editor

Editorial

Sept. 2019

Jack Ma has official retired from Alibaba Group, seceding his position as Chairman (he previously has done so as CEO).

Will the announcement of Jack Ma’s retirement places Tencent in a position to take advantage of the vacuum left in the wake of Jack Ma no longer being the prominent face of Alibaba.

In all fairness Alibaba is an incredibly large, powerful, and successful company, but one cannot separate the fact that when people think of Alibaba they think of Jack Ma.

With the loss of Steve Jobs from Apple, Tim Cook stepped up and became the face of Apple. A company like Alibaba, which relies heavily on the cult-of-personality leadership in the media from their founders. But, it is unclear in Daniel Zhang can fill the charismatic shoes of Jack Ma, in the way Tim Cook has done for Steve Jobs.

Jack Ma announced that he will also cede licenses and legal entities to a number of board members, in particular he is surrendering control of variable-interest entities (VIEs) that hold the company’s business licenses. He is doing so, due to the fact that China still lacks laws on corporate governance, and by spreading out control of the company to its top executives Ma hopes to protect his shareholders. While also looking to position the control of the company over a larger group of executives so that, one or two individuals cannot gain overt control of the company.

The question now lies in if Alibaba is a strong enough corporation to continue without the face and man behind its phenomenal success? Especially, when the strategic partnership of Tencent and JD.com has encroached on its core ecommerce business.

Beyond ecommerce and brick-n-mortar ‘New Retail’, Tencent’s WePay is steadily moving on Alibaba’s own Alipay. With WePay beginning to dominate the fintech mobile payment areas outside of the 1st tiered cities of China, due to its embedded connection to WeChat and QQ without the need of downloading a separate app just for a payment (a la Alipay).

Tencent has its own charismatic leader in the form of the “Other Ma” Pony, but Tencent has risen as a social media, gaming, content connected ecosystem powerhouse without the need of Pony Ma being its public face. If you remove Pony Ma from the picture, the corporate governance of Tencent appears, on-its-face, to be more solidified than that of Alibaba.

Cloud services, ecommerce, fintech / mobile pay, these are all areas that may see rise within Tencent Holdings and decline in Alibaba Group, but like all things in the Middle Kingdom: The tea leaves are not always easily read.

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Born and raised in the Missouri-Ozarks Ryan studied Film Production, and East Asian Culture, at the University of Kansas where he was a UGRA recipient that led him on a seven-year long, Journey From the West, to China. Where he worked with Warner Brothers, the China Film Group Corp. and the National Bureau of Statistics of China. Before returning to the States, where he specializes in Chinese Anime & Comics, China’s Box-Office, and Chinese entertainment-tech industries. He has a dog in China, Abigail, and a dog in the Arkansas-Ozarks, King Blue, who help ease his anxiety of suffering from the “Two-Dimensional Complex” that is trying to understand the Culture Industry landscapes of the Middle Kingdom.

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